eh bakit po ang ibang sekta, kahit walang mga bagay o larawan, nakakasamba sila, at alam naman natin na ang iba ay hinipo talaga ng Dios, kung ang namumuno man sa kanila ay mga mukang pera, pero ang taong napasanib dun ay malinis ang intention, sa palagay ko wala sa relihiyon ang kaligtasan, kanya kanya tayong kaligtasan. at isa pa po, ang mga larawan ng mga yumao natin sa buhay ay nakita natin sila ng personal, pero ang mga rebulto na ginawa nating Dios sa simbahan ay hindi nakita.
eh bakit po ang ibang sekta, kahit walang mga bagay o larawan, nakakasamba sila ,
— Ginusto po ng ibang sekta sa aking nalalaman sa loob ng simbahan nila na walang mga bagay o larawan ay nakakasamba sila, kasi may learning po sila na nangagaling sa kanilang mga preacher o minister na kusang binato sa atin na tayong mga katoliko ay labag sa utos ng Diyos na may larawan na inanyuan sa loob ng simbahan as a Idolatry. As they quote the Holy Scripture in Exodus 20:4;
” Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above,or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth” : (King James Version)
On this verse, Doubt po sila na tayo ay lumabag talaga kasi gumawa tayo ng graven image as God prohibit in the Ten Commandments as an Idol. Pero kaibigan sa totoo lang hindi po tayo lumabag sa utos ng Diyos kasi kung basahin po natin yung verse 3 in Exodus Chapter 20 as we give the conclusion ito ang sabi.;
” Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”
Ang verse 3 po ay nagsasabi na hindi po tayo sumamba ng ibang diyos, that’s why he prohibit us to create a graven image as a form of worship.
” So now, what about it? should we eat meat that has been sacrificed to idols? Well, we all know that an idol is not really a god and that there is only one God and no other.” ( 1 Corinthians 8:4, New Living Translation)
If we make a image which is our God that is an Idol and if we worship on him as our God that is an Idolatry. Like on the other we say on him as doctor but he is not truly a doctor that is a fake doctor that is what I am referring to. We cannot see a any document of the Roman Catholic Church or if ever you have a knowledge about it you make give me a copy or present to me telling the Images of Saints,Statues, Image of Christ and Mary himself to worship as GOD.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church says;
Paragraph 2113; Idolatry not only refers to false pagan worship. It remains a constant temptation to faith. Idolatry consists in divinizing what is not God. Man commits idolatry whenever he honors and reveres a creature in place of God, whether this be gods or demons (for example, satanism), power, pleasure, race, ancestors, the state, money, etc. Jesus says, “You cannot serve God and mammon.”44 Many martyrs died for not adoring “the Beast”45 refusing even to simulate such worship. Idolatry rejects the unique Lordship of God; it is therefore incompatible with communion with God.46 (398, 2534, 2289, 2473)
Paragraph 2131; Basing itself on the mystery of the incarnate Word, the seventh ecumenical council at Nicaea (787) justified against the iconoclasts the veneration of icons—of Christ, but also of the Mother of God, the angels, and all the saints. By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new “economy” of images. (476)
Paragraph 2132; The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, “the honor rendered to an image passes to its prototype,” and “whoever venerates an image venerates the person portrayed in it.”70 The honor paid to sacred images is a “respectful veneration,” not the adoration due to God alone: Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. The movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is.71
THE Said Catechism is taken from: http://www.usccb.org
On the side of us Roman Catholics we make a graven image as a form of inspiration sa loob ng ating simbahan. For example sa loob ng simbahan natin may Crucifix po tayo representing Jesus nailed on the cross ay nagbibigay alaala talaga kay kristo para sa ating kaligtasan na gawa nk Kristo para sa atin, sa oras na ako ay titingin sa kanyang image or picture. Kagaya din sa mga ilang verses ng biblia ay may repsentation tungkol dito na mali ba talaga ang may larawan sa loob ng ating simbahan.
Ito ang sabi;
The space above the door leading into the most Holy Place was also paneled. All the walls were decorated with carvings of cherubim, each with two faces, and there was a palm tree carving between each of the cherubim. One face that of a man looked toward the palm tree on the other side. The figures were carved all along the inside of the Temple, from the floor to the top of the walls, including the outer wall of the Holy Place. (Ezekiel 41: 17-20, Holy Bible New Living Translation copyright 1996 by Tyndale Charitable Trust)
Carving, as a means for making sculpture, is distinct from methods using soft and malleable materials like clay or melted glass, which may be shaped into the desired forms while soft and then harden into that form. Carving tends to require much more work than methods using malleable materials.
On the Holy Place or the temple were carved and decorated with cherubims. On our Churches we have a lot of images which is like also a Temple in the Old Testament who has a images which is carved. Nowhere in the bible says that Our Churches must have no images or if we had a image it is contrary to the bible and in the will of God.
On our Dearest Separated Brethren ay may right po sila sa kanilang simbahan, pero I beg that they will respect on us instead of attacking us.
Roman Catholics are not idolaters because we did not worship the picture or image as God. But on the side of images of saints it is only a veneration of them or a respect and on the side of Mary it is only a special veneration or respect also a Mother of God (Jesus Christ) high rather in saints not to the extent of God which is adoration to God’s Alone only. Kagaya nang tumawag tayo sa ating mga kaibigan using the cellphone it is not strictly the Cellphone itself ang sinabihan kundi yung friend natin.
QUESTION; At alam natin na ang iba ay hinipo talaga ng Dios.
—Hindi po ako tutol diyan kaibigan, kasi hindi po natin alam ang gusto ng Diyos sa atin. Pero kailangan din natin malaman ang tunay na Simbahan na tatag talaga ni Kristo proven by standard references or historical evidence of being genuine and the pillar and foundation of truth.
THE HISTORICAL CHURCH, THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH;
The New Book of Knowledge Page 281, Volume 16.
The history of the Roman Catholic Church began in an upper room in Jerusalem almost 2,000 years ago. The Church may be described as the society that Jesus founded, which is vitalized by the Spirit of God and organized according to a structure which he established. The history of the Roman Catholic Church traces the destinies of that society from its beginning until now.
The World Almanac and Book of Facts 2010 Page 710
Roman Catholics Traditionally, founded by Jesus who named St. Peter the 1st vicar; developed in early Christian proselytizing , especially after the conversion of imperial Rome in the 4th cent.
QUESTION ; Kung ang namumuno man sa kanila ay mga mukang pera, pero ang taong napasanib dun ay malinis ang intention.
— God only knows our heart at sa intention nila ay nirespeto ko sila as my brother and sisters in Christ. On their side they must be willing to listen and have a open mind.
QUESTION ; Sa palagay ko wala sa relihiyon ang kaligtasan, kanya kanya tayong kaligtasan.
— Kaibigan may purpose po ang ating Panginoong Hesukristo na bakit po siya nagtatag ng Simbahan na ito ay magpapatuloy sa gawang kaligtasan. By the True Church founded by Jesus Christ tayo ay maihatid sa kaligtasan not the savior itself;
As what the Holy Scripture said;
For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the Church and Christ is himself the savior of the church, his body.( Ephesians 5:23, Goodnews Bible Today’s Version)
QUESTION; at isa pa po, ang mga larawan ng mga yumao natin sa buhay ay nakita natin sila ng personal, pero ang mga rebulto na ginawa nating Dios sa simbahan ay hindi nakita.
— Kaibigan walang dokumento nang Simbahang Katolika na ang mga rebulto sa loob nang simbahan ay mga Dios po except Jesus Christ which is only a representation o mismo nagsabi sila na ang Larawan ng Mahal na Inang Maria ay Dios hindi po siya ay Inahan na ating Panginoong Hesukristo na siyang Dios nagkatawang tao para sa atin.
— Totoo po yan kaibigan na ang yumao natin sa buhay ay nakita natin sila ng personal at bago sila namatay may picture po tayo sa kanil na maging alaala sa kabutihan o pagmamahal na nagawa nila sa buhay natin noong nandito pa sila sa ating mundo. Pero on the side in the Roman Catholic Church ang mga rebulto nang mga Santo ay totoo silang mga tao sa ating pananampalataya noon paman nakita nila personally pero sa akin hindi ko nakita kasi patay na sila. Ang kamatayan ay nandiyan talaga sa anumang oras pero na magkaroon tayo nang mga rebulto at pictures nila parang nandiyan parin sila sa atin. Kagaya ni Saint Lorenzo Ruiz ng Maynila ay naging isang unang Santo natin sa Pilipinas siya ay buhay noon pa man at naging bayani nang ating Pananampalatayang Katoliko, sana tayo din. Kaibigan, ikaw ba ang makapagbigay nang dokumento ng simbahan na nagsasabi na ang mga Larawan sa loob ng simbahan ay kilalanin nating bilang Dios.
Saint Lorenzo Ruiz (ca. 1600 – 29 September 1637), also known as Laurentius Ruiz de Manila or San Lorenzo Ruiz de Manila, is the first Filipino saint venerated in the Roman Catholic Church; he is thus the protomartyr of the Philippines. He was killed for refusing to leave Japan and renounce his Roman Catholic beliefs during the persecution of Japanese Christians under the Tokugawa Shogunate in the 17th century.
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